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about this fiscal cliff. right? so you laugh, right. >> i'm not laughing but if you take a dollar out of every -- that's a tax. >> i understand. i would rather self impose a tax than be forced to do something. therefore you're going to want to do it. for me, it's muscle memory. once you try it, you'll feel a tremendous patriotism and it will be -- >> did you hear that lieutenant colonel representative say we don't have a tax problem, we don't have a revenue problem, it's a spending problem? this doesn't address the problem in washington. that's the problem. >> again, once we band together, companies and citizens, we're listen, we need additional receipts, period. that's a known. it's going to happen for a period of time through -- >> you're a business guy. we're run out of time.j3 if you take in money but spend more, you're still taking in more money every year. you have to worry about the spending side, not revenue. >> the good faith program i started is going to force our elected officials to do something. we'll hit it at top. they hit it at the bottom. we'll meet in the middle and
>>> just days away from the fiscal cliff right now. can lawmaker reach a last- minute deal in time? a live report from capitol hill coming up. >> plus, a u.s. general way memorable military career has passed away. a look at the life and legacy of desert storm commander norman schwarzkopf. >> a redskins-cowboys preview with dave ross a little bit later. fox 5 morning news continues right now. right now. >> you can see how clear it is. clearly. friday, december 28th. good morning. i'm sarah simmons. h simmons. >> let's talk to tucker barnes about the weather. >> we are looking fine. it is chilly out there. kind of seasonbury chilly. temperatures back in the low to mid-30s and we'll be in for a decent day. about maybe 40, 42 today, partial sunshine. so friday looks good. tomorrow, things get a little more interesting as we've got this winter event on the way. not a huge event but it is an event. >> it is an event but not quite an event. >> okay. i'm just excited about it. >> you are allowed to be excite about it. we don't want to scare people. >> i know. i won't. >> 33 this morning at
with four days to go before the fiscal cliff strikes. >> all right. always a pleasure. thank you, sir. >> good to be with you. >>> major break today in negotiations between dock workers and port operators puts off at least for now a port strike that would have shut down nearly all shipping traffic along the east and gulf coast. a federal mediator says that the union and group representing the shipping lines agreed to a 30-day contract extension narrowly averting the sunday strike deadline. business groups warn that the economic impact of such a work stoppage is disaster. joining me is nbc's ron mott. for folks not following the story, how did we get here? >> reporter: folks haven't because they're paying attention to the fiscal cliff. this was lurking in the shadows and today moved the ball down the field for 30 days and may be talking about a strike again in 30 days but the big issue here was this so-called container royalty that the shipping companies pay to the union members who actually the guys and men and women offloading the big ships and the containers with things like tvs and
the press when it comes to the fiscal cliff handling, is that the right way to start the negotiation with two days left before the fiscal cliff or shouldn't he sit down and hammer out a deal with the senate republicans and house republicans. do you think a deal gets done? >> i do think a deal will get done. i think it might january 1st. i think we will briefly go over the fiscal cliff. the president worked on the issue months and months. the entire "crisis" is an issue of congress' own making . he was taping the meet the press on saturday. house republicans were cozy and doing nothing on the fiscal cliff. john bone bone took himself out of the negotiations and abdicated responsibility and said he would dole with whatever the senate and president had come to. i happening there is a lot of good proprosals on the table and something will get done, too. >> dave: it appears that senate republicans came a long way in sharing their desire for no taxes raised on the wealthy. $550,000 thres hold for couples is a significant compromise. but can they get anything through the house in terms of g
there's a little bit better tone away from the fiscal cliff. that's where it is right now. >> what about this concept. skeptical, the idea that we're underowned in the stock market and anything -- any resolution could mean stocks. >> a lot of cash on the sidelines that will be put to work if you get a little bit of a sign of a resolution here, bill. happy new year. >> nice tie, but i'm always saying that to you. we're going to the mid-point of the range, dow down 22 points. that's the first hour of the "closing bell." stand by now for hour number two. >> and welcome back, to the "closing bell." i'm mandy drury sitting in for maria bartiromo. it is the end of another trading day, and, no, we do not have a fix for the fiscal cliff. guess what, the numbers also reflect that. let's take a look at how a day on wall street, looks like the dow is down marginally, 24 points to the downside and the nasdaq off by the biggest percentage loss, down by 22 points and the s&p 500 is down by about seven points, and as i said it is crunch time. there are only three trading days left now for 2012 and stil
, right now senate leaders scrambling to find common ground to avoid going over that fiscal cliff. got less than three days to go now, folks. at the same time in his weekly address today, the president says he's preparing a plan of action if no deal is reached. >> if an agreement isn't reached on time, then i'll urge the senate to hold an up or down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for americans looking for a job, and lays the ground work for future progress on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> republicans say they want a deal as well, but they highlighted their biggest sticking points today in their weekly address. listen now to missouri senator roy blount. >> senate democrats have spent months drawing partisan lines in the sand. the president's proposal to raise tax on the top 2% of americans won't even pay one-third of the annual interest that's now owed on this massive $16 trillion debt. in fact, the president's tax hike would only fund the government for eight days. >> the senate is se
out there. you are right he was pounding the same message again and again f. we go up the fiscal cliff for not meeting them halfway. >>> not because democrats and congre congre congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate but i think it has been hard for speaker boehner and republican mcconnell to accept the fact taxes on wealthiest should go up a little bit sweas well as a deficit reduction package. if they can't say yes to good offers i have an obligation to make sure the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors who are relying on medicare. >> republicans are expressing frustration saying the president is trying to put the blame on them for going off the cliff but when senator mcconnell was brought a few days ago mcconnell's office says he got a call from senator reed or democrats to talk about the fiscal cliff in about a month. they feel like they have not gone the extra pile here. >> the vice president getting a call today. what do they make of all of that? >> that could be a big deal. it shows the white house push back they are going to say look he has been pull
right. well who needs washington? starbucks actually has a plan to brew a fiscal cliff deal. now in a letter to starbucks employees ceo howard schultz asked employees at its d.c. area store to write, come together, on coffee cups when serving customers thursday and friday. rather than be bystanders you and your customers have the opportunity and i believe we all have a responsibility to send our elected officials a respectful but pointed message, urging them to come together to find common ground. this is not the first time starbucks has taken a political stand. during the debt ceiling debate in august 2011, schultz made a splash calling for boycott of political contributions it u.s. lawmakers until they struck a bipartisan deal. starbucks shares at this point down slightly, 48 cents. imagine john boehner going into starbucks and they write on the cup, come together. hello. lori: boehner, this is directly to you. tracy: exactly. howard schultz is on the campaign to fix the debt. he is one of the ceos that has come out. lori: he has nothing to lose being advocate, being outspoken.
years. so we know what we're dealing with, and i think it affects us right now in the fiscal cliff negotiations because we are not going to do anything unless it is bipartisan. we will not be able to pass anything in the house that doesn't have significant republican votes in the senate, and the democrats in the senate are not going to be able to support something that won't require some votes of democrats in the house. so we are together, maybe it's like a dysfunctional family, but we do have to work together because without bipartisanship, nothing is going anywhere. therefore, i think you have to go back to negotiations 101. which is that someone in a negotiation has to win some and lose some. the other party in a negotiation has to win some and lose some. the president is not going to get everything he wants. the republicans in the house and senate are not going to get everything we want. nor are the democrats in the house and senate. so we have areas where we can come together, and i've seen it. all of us were talking in the last couple of hours about how we have talked to our
. >> that's right. half of the fiscal cliff is the fact that the bush tax rates are expiring midnight tonight. we've focused on that, whose taxes are going up, is it $250,000, or $400,000. the sequester, the spending cuts to the pentagon and elsewhere kick in. the bottom line is when you talk to republican senators they say the issue is not taxes, it's if you give the president more revenue he'll spend it on more government programs. >> senator harry reid should have made sure the senate passed a budget sometime in the last three years and it would be reconciled with the house and you would have a framework, a budget resolution. the fact we're down to the 59th minute of the 11th-hour and a couple elected officials and unelected staffs behind closed doors doing a back room deal is an outrage. >> in the final moments, a key development is that vice president joe biden has been in delaware for the weekend. he came back a few hours ago and is huddled behind closed doors, two phone calls with mitch mcconnell. a year and a half ago, it looked like all hope was lost and vice president with h
that they are getting something done, the fiscal cliff meeting at the white house right now. what were the mechanics of rushing the deal through congress and getting it passed into law? what would that look like in four days? lisa desjardins joins us now. what will it look like? >> well, there is a couple of possibilities, don. one is that they take sort of the remnants of one of the bills that passed the house or the senate and they just change it. they add whatever is in this deal to it. they have a whole bunch of vehicles that are possible for that. one sticking point, because this deal would most likely deal with taxes, there is a rule in the constitution that is has been interpreted by most every side to determine it has to begin in the house, revenue measures begin in the house. they need a bill that starts in the house, okay, they have a lot to do that. then the trick is making sure they have the votes. i think if we see anything come out of tonight's meeting, anything substantial, that's what is going to happen this next day and a half. leaders on both sides have to make sure they have got t
comforts that town right now. also this morning, a rather dire prediction about the fiscal cliff and what might happen when lawmakers return later this week. it's a pocketbook issue for all of us. >> some people are expecting to maybe go right over that cliff. >> more likely than a couple days ago. >>> and later this half hour, the christmas edition of our insomniac play list. your favorites performed with an updated beat. putting a new spin on some of the old christmas classics. >> good to see ceelo hanging out with the muppets there. >>> topping our news right now, the nra is not backing down from its call to place armed officers in the nation schools. >> congressman chris murphy whose district includes newtown calls it tone deaf and also revolting. >> reporter: from the brooklyn bridge in new york to the sidewalks of falls church, virginia, anti-gun protests are springing up around the country. the debate on gun control has also triggered a run on gun shows and gun stores. sales are soaring as people rush to buy assault weapons before a possible ban. >> we're completely out of the so-c
whitfield. here are the top stories we are following right now. >>> that fiscal cliff. we are at the very edge. senate leaders are working through the weekend trying to reach a deal before the deadline. today president obama called on lawmakers to meet their deadlines and responsibilities and forge a compromise to avoid tax hike and spending cuts from taking effect. lisa desjardins is live on capitol hill. what's going on right now? >> reporter: right now it's all behind closed doors, martin. what we just have learned in the last hour, in fact, what reporters have seen here, a surprise. house speaker john boehner was here at the capitol. we're still trying to sort out exactly why he was here, but he wasn't here for very long, it seems. he left in the last hour. also, we were able to see some of senator mcconnell's staffers. i was able to speak to one of them coming in and out of these kind of closed-door planning meetings. he said they've been here since 9:00 a.m. they plan to work all day and we may see his boss, senator mcconnell, later today. that shows us kind of where things stand. i
the the fiscal cliff. everyone's taxes as of right now set to go up january 1st. do we have the countdown clock up? we'll get that up later, but here is where congressional leaders and the president stand on the fiscal cliff, listen. >> but whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect, some people are going to like it, some people like it less, but that's where we are and i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can. >> a good meeting down to the white house. we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself, and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make hess to his conference and we'll be working hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours and so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody can get 100% of what they want. let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jo
the fiscal cliff, right? come back to work and let a majority in the house, republicans and democrats, work their will. let democracy work to protect the middle class. it is essential we pass the extension of unemployment insurance. that is why the president has been very clear on that since day one that it should be a part of any plan. these are people who are out of work through no fault of their own. they are looking for jobs in what is still a tough economy and providing unemployment benefits provide more security for those americans and their families, but it is good for everyone else also. those people have a little bit more money in their pockets to spend on goods and services to support their family which is good for everyone else. when they are spending money, businesses can sell more goods and services and we have some small business representatives here who know very well that the more people have money in their pockets, the more customers they have with money, the more they can sell their goods and services, and the better off the country will be. let's get back to work. allow t
's handling the fiscal cliff. republicans in congress are in the mid-20s. >> that's right, there's no question about that, tremont. obama has done a much better job of positioning himself to take advantage of the fiscal cliff. he has painted republicans is only caring about their millionaire and billionaire friends. taking hostage the people of america. you have steny hoyer saying that republicans want to take children hostage and threatened to shoot them. this is vilifying republicans and it has been incredibly effective. in the short term, absolutely, the president is set to take advantage of this. tax increases, massive tax reductions to the military. republicans really stand and the notion is appalling about who wins, but the republicans win because the economy is going to go out yet another fiscal cliff. george w. bush is not the president. obama is the president, he is not putting forth proposals to work with republicans. he will have to take ownership of this. they need to come up with a cohesive message about real economic growth and shrinking the size of government. they don't have a
. as lawmakers take us right up to that fiscal cliff. this evening, three days to go before taxes go up for all americans. will the president's pressure on congress bring in a deal? let's bring in jon karl on this. jon, are they any closer? >> a little closer, but they are certainly not there yet. tonight, congressional leaders are making one last-ditch effort to keep most americans from waking up to a big tax like on new year's day. with just three days left, finally a glimmer of hope. >> i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> whatever we come up with it's going to be imperfect. some people aren't going to a like it. >> reporter: right now, it's all in the hands of the two senate leaders. democratic harry reid and republican mitch mcconnell. they're working on a mini-deal that would prevent a tax increase for roughly 98% of american workers. extend unemployment benefits that are set to expire for some 2 million people. and prevent a huge cut in payments to medicare doctors. what took so long? >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja v
taking america right up to the fiscal cliff. three days now until higher taxes for all. will there be a deal? as americans and their 401(k)s already taking a hit. paying a brice because of that standoff. >>> crash landing. the jet that skidded off the runway nearly smashing into a crowded highway. >>> and back in the game. football coach's battle off the field inspired a major turnaround on it. and tonight, he's about to return. >> you're like -- >> tomorrow, a team's prayer answered. >>> good evening. it's great to have you with us here on a saturday night. we do begin here, with yet another holiday storm. the one-two punch this year, and tonight, on a weekend when so many are still traveling, a challenge out there. here's the radar this evening. rain and snow. tonight, it's moving through the ohio valley right into the northeast, from washington up through philly, new york and boston. this is just one of the many scenes on the highways tonight. this is i-83 outside of harrisburg. where several cars collided in the snow. several people were take on the the hospital. al
to washington to try to lead us away from the fiscal cliff. >>> former president george h.w. bush in intentive care. we'll have the latest on that. >>> a vigil for firefighters, a tornado in action and december surfing in the great lakes. good morning. i'm mara schiavocampo. a powerful winter storm that brought an odd mix of tornadoes, heavy winds and snow to the nation's midsection is now wreaking havoc on the northeast. snow and sleet have produced treacherous road conditions from pennsylvania and western new york to maine with more than a foot of snow expected in some areas. this storm so far being blamed for at least six deaths. and as nbc's kurt gregory reports, the storm is creating a post holiday travel nightmare. >> reporter: cleanup on the day after christmas for the deep south. a record of more than 20 tornadoes as a massive storm system ripped through mississippi and alabama and left arkansas with a record-breaking white christmas. that storm system continued its march across the center of the nation wednesday, leaving a near whiteout from detroit -- >> not used to it. it's slick. >
. speaking right. exactly. liz: more on the fiscal cliff. let's bring in peter. with us is former clinton advisor doug shoen. we have basically mr. boehner saying, look, you senate, you have not come up with anything. >> i think, unfortunately, we will probably get around it. i think it is a worse outcome to avoid the cliff then to go over it. i think we should broaden the discussion and look at what is going on around the world. look at japan and europe. the japanese government is the glaring war on japanese citizens. it will create inflation. if the japanese citizens start to dump their bonds, they have been a bigger part then japan recently. that is a big problem for us. their euro has been quietly depreciating. if that goes out, that is a much bigger fiscal cliff. if the buyers of treasuries become sellers. liz: there are a lot of "if" in your discussion. the bond markets are still pretty -- nothing from the bottom vigilantes yet. you were a clinton advisor. you saw in the mid- 90s bond yields really spike higher. that is the issue. if we see the economy healing, bond yields could go
. "early start" begins right now. >>> crunch time for the fiscal cliff. the key players to meet at the white house with just four days left until the deadline. >> they called him stormin norman. america remembering general norman schwarzkopf. >> and have gun, will teach. hundreds of educators get a hands-on lesson in firearms. controversial proposal. good morning. welcome to "early start." 5:00 a.m. in the east. >>> it is the last friday of 2012. i've just had that pointed out to us. one final desperate attempt to dodge the fiscal cliff, just four days left before we go over the edge triggers tax hikes, spending cuts that could send the nation back into recession. the president calling for members of the congress the back. a gang of six attending. vice president biden, harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john boehner representing the republicans. brianna keilar is live from washington. is anybody optimistic that a deal could be done today around a table? >> i will tell you the optimism is sort of sinking. senate majority leader harry reid said he
. the fiscal cliff might seem extremely large right now. we look at the more long-term view, a small blip on the overall screen. we'll see a lot of volatility but can you deal with the volatility and if it's causing to you lose sleep it might have an indication you might want to make some changes. >> it's hard not to have a knee-jerk reaction. before we get to that talk about tax deferred accounts. how will the fiscal cliff affect them. >> this is the beautiful part about this is that the biggest concern individuals are having that we've worked with and talking to, what is going to happen with my taxes? what is going to happen with my dividends taxes, capital gains? so the best part about it, if you're dealing with non-qualified accounts you might have to be concerned about that but qualified accounts or tax deferred accounts such as your 401(k)s and individual retirement accounts, roth and traditional, these accounts are tax deferred and many 509 plans, college savings plans, different types of concept are tax deferred and some are tax free such as 529 so maximize this and eliminates the
from san jose. ktvu. >> we are less than a week from the fiscal cliff. the united states senate convening right now. we want to show you a live if picture. there it is. that's the senate majority leader. the senators are right now meeting to discuss the economic deadline and coming up at 7:15 we will have more on the fiscal cliff negotiations and how we are closing in on another financial barrier, that debt ceiling. >> let's go to tara filling in for sal. there is another accident in napa. >> we have a two car crash on napa road. that person is trapped inside of the car. chp working to get them out as well as police. we have another incident we want to mention. 880 northbound at 92 split. a solo spin out. it's close to traffic so they are running a break. here is a look at maps where 680 southbound, actually we will go to 101 in san francisco. you can see we have traffic flowing nicely in both directions. finally a look at maze. you can see traffic also flowing very well there on the far right hand side of the screen. let's check in with mark. >> good morning to you. we are t
of these fiscal cliff worries. >> we're going to sort of trend right around here -- it doesn't look like we're going to get a deal before year end of any great significance. that being said, we may get one last year. do we trade in line right here? >> so we're going to trade probably 91 on the upside, 86 on the low side. i think once a deal is done, you're going to see a reemergence of a risk-on rally. i think that's where crude oil breaks out to the upside. we start to get an upward trend. opec's 2013 target is around $100. i think we'll move up into the mid-90s and probably press through that $100. one of the burdens we have is we do have an abundance of supply in the u.s. the u.s. won't export any crude oil, but i think the possibility of us starting to consume more, would drive and help support those higher prices. >> when you put on those longs, i'm wondering, because this week is a holiday shortened week. congress is coming back on the 27th. is this a trade for 2013? >> yeah, it is more of a trade for 2013. i wiould start to look at fartherer out contracts, to like december 2013, and
that help the fiscal cliff we are in right now? second question, with our history of wasting so much taxpayer dollars everywhere we thisn this fashion, isn't why we don't get much help from our allies when we go to war, because they know the end result? that they would be wasting money as well. they probably know this from colonial times. thank you. pinkberrry is a certain amount of waste in any war. -- i think there is. i spoke with a very smart colonel in kohst province. he said the american people don't expect us to be proficient, but they do expect us to be effective. i thought that was a great way of thinking about. the question me after have is, given the amount of money being spent in blood and treasure, and has been the outcome? to the second part of the question, do our allies know we waste a lot of money and so that why they're not so forthcoming, the stories that i hear back to do with the they know we will pick up the tab, so they dodge as long as they can. a recurring theme is we want it more than they do, whether it be the taliban -- or the afghans your working with on
-wise and the s&p is down 3.33 at 1423. five days left until the fiscal cliff deadline, and though the market has been very resilient to this point, what happens if we go over the cliff and if lawmakers cannot get it together come january 1st? will it be a big meltdown for wall street? that's what everybody wants to know. >> certainly hope know. in today's "closing bell" exchange, former chief economist of the vice president joe biden, oliver perch from gary goldberg and matt cheslock and rick santelli, thank you very much. jarred, you wrote an article called "cliff dive, what the heck happens next?" what does happen next? >> well, that's actually all up to john boehner, as i see it, because if we were to decide to bring the president's most recent small car compromise to the house i actually believe it would pass. the problem for him it would probably pass with mostly democrat vote, but i think it could get through the senate. that's the only scenario i see by which we avoid going over the cliff. >> wait a minute. >> at least temporarily. >> wait a minute, jared. john boehner said it's up to the
, could we possibly be on the verge of a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff? you are looking live right now at the white house. that's where something big is going to be going on. just about seven hours from now, it will be the sight of a high stakes meeting with president obama and the leaders of congress. and to weigh in on this is doug, live in washington more details. >> good morning. they're going to be talking today and maybe that in and of itself is something of an achievement. issues will be on the table in that room in the white house as they all gather around and one of the items that's being discussed here in washington, believe it or not, is the price of milk. more on that in just a moment. but the president did, in fact, return early from his vacation in hawaii yesterday. he is coming back for this big meeting at the white house. we don't know if there is a new white house strategy here or if there is going to a new offer from the president, but many republicans are not terribly hopeful. >> any time you announce a meeting publicly in washington, it's usually for political theat
the fiscal cliff because that stuff happens automatically but the idea of a debt ceiling increase, they've told obama if you want a trillion dollars in higher debt and he needs that eight times in the next decade, you have to cut spending a trillion dollars. >> here, i'll ask you again. 0 i'm a republican congressman and i signed your tax pledge to not raise taxes. if someone says here's a bill that says if you sign this we will cut taxes for 98% of americans. how could you say no? my point is, the administration is winning the war of optics. if they played it out this way, do they not win? >> well, they've won the war of optics so far because everything's been done in camera. it's been done inside closed walls. if c-span and fox and -- were able to videotape the negotiations, the kind of thing we're learning now about how obama said i have no interesting in cutting spending, he's been lying for two months about his negotiationing position in the room. if people knew that, there would be serious unhappiness in his lack of seriousness with cutting spending. if the negotiations were here
. right now we have very well leverage in the debate over the fiscal cliff because that stuff happens automatically but the idea of a debt ceiling increase, they've told oba if you want a trillion dollar in higher debt and he needs that eight times in the next decade, you have to cut spending a trillion dollars. >> here, i'll ask you again. 0 i'm a republican congressman and i signed your tax pledge to not raise taxes. if someone says here's a bill that says if you sign this we will cut taxes for 98% of americans. how could youay no? my point is, the administration is winning the war of optics. if they played it out this way, do they not win? >> well, they've won the war of optics so far because everything's been done in camera. it's been done inside closed walls. if c-span and fox and -- were able to videotape the negotiations, the kind of thing we're learning nowbout how obama said i have no interesting in cutting spending, he's been lying for two mons about his negotiationing position in the room. if people knew that, there would be serious unhappiness in his lack of seriousne with
's the bigger news, right? not the fiscal cliff but the fact that tim geithner announced that the debt ceiling will be hit on december 31st, that he has extraordinary measures to take to delay it a little bit, but we're now in a serious situation. the fiscal cliff was a semi-serious situation. this is a very serious situation. >> what you've got, these two things coming together, the cliff and the debt ceiling, you'll have market reactions that reinforces the sense of unpredictability. if you're an investor, if you're running a business, what you want to know is what the playing field is. you want to know what the rules are. nobody knows anything. it means basically things begin to come to a halt. internationally, it raises all sorts of questions about our competence, our seriousness, our reputation. and these are people who are investing here, who are providing us also with the means to float the deficit. these are the people providing a lot of our financing. well, at some point if this goes on long enough, they begin to think, hold it. >> who's writing a lot of our financing? >> mainly forei
? >>> fears of the fiscal cliff are taking some of the holiday cheer right out of wall street. cnn's alison kosik watching the post-christmas trading as well as a threat to the economy that could come even sooner than the cliff? let's start with the stocks, though. >> reporter: yes, stocks, very quiet today, very quiet session. not many investors in the game today. expect that to be the case the rest of the week. the fun tny thing, this is usuay the time we see the santa claus rally. the dow down 46 points. no deal on the if i'm not mistaken. that's spoiling the rally so far. it could be worse, though. we've seen much harsher reaction to all the congressional shenanigans in the past that could be a sign the economy is in better shape this time around. the s&p 500 is still on track for a 13% gain for the year. >>alison, what's the container cliff? >> reporter: the container cliff could be serious stuff. it could be a major threat to the economy. but it's also something that can be avoided. this container cliff is the name the national retail federation has given to this situation if workers
yesterday at the deadline but that deal to avoid the fiscal cliff on new year's if democrats and republicans can't compromise, tax hikes will kick in, the tax policy center said families making $50,000 a year will have to pay $2,400 more in taxes. >>> the excon who lured firefighters to their deaths left a note saying he wanted to burn down the neighborhood and do what i like doing best, killing people. >> we are being shot at. multiple fireman down, i'm shot. >> that was a call that a wounded firefighter made, william spangler burned his home yesterday and waited for first responders. he was armed a gun, a shot gun and a rifle. he opened fire when crews arrived. arrived. two firefighters were killed. >> just always there for you. you just take them for granted. you don't -- >> two more wounded are still in the hospital on this christmas day. spangler took his own life. his rifle is the same make and caliber weapon used by the newtown shooter. >>> families in connecticut are trying to find solace on this christmas day. the town is still reeling from the shooting that killed 26 people at
of congress, if we go off the fiscal cliff and then go to all these shenanigans to patch something together. >> ken walsh, chief white house correspondent dante for u.s. news and world report. >> thank you. >> one year since a tragic christmas fire that captured the nation's attention. now, a shattered mother is speaking about the fire that killed her mother, her father and three daughters. her story, one year later, is next. [ male announcer ] this is sheldo whose long day setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. back to the news. till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8. or...try kids boxes! one police officer who survived the apparent shooting ambush in upstate new york wishes he could have done more to help the volunteer firefighters who ultimately died. it happened christmas eve. police say a gunman apparently set a fire as a trap to lure first res
in hopes of a last minute deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. 11 news saturday morning starts right now. >> good morning and welcome to 11 news saturday morning. i'm jennifer franciotti. lisa has the weekend off. >> i'm barry sims. third time's a charm this week with the winter weather. a snowy day is on tap for us. let's get right to lou mowser to tell us all about it. >> some folks were expecting to see some snow when they woke up this morning. >> we were expecting it. >> some areas are seeing flurries right now. most are not. i think this is going to start a little bit later on them than what we anticipated. starting to show up on radar. let's show hd doppler right now. currently, the areas that you see in darker blue, that's where snow is falling. but, the whiter areas that's snow is coming down, but it's not hitting the ground. when you can see areas south of the dc area around annapolis. we're seeing a rain/snow mix that is starting to fall there. what's interesting is you see this area, this open area start to hagers town and comes down around winchester. that area is moving in h
, right after january 1st. gregg: we shall see. >> going over the fiscal cliff has been president obama's mission from the very beginning. the fact that he -- >> i don't believe that for a second. i don't believe it for a second. gregg: you reilly think he wants to do this. >> absolutely. because you ownly gets his way, he only gets his way if he backs us all up against the wall and says you have no choice. it is my way or the highway. that has been his negotiating. >> very sad somebody would talk like that and thing like that. >> it is i agree. happy new year. >> happy new year. gregg: not really. patti ann: well, panic at a shopping mall. wait until you see what happens, a 33-ton tank suddenly bursts. what is sent into the mall. we'll tell you. gregg: a final farewell for the firefighters shot dead while responding to a christmas eve fire. how a community is remembering them. how an officer is being hailed as a hero in helping to save others. >> at that point, i mean, i am no different than anybody standing in this room. i'm driving to work, you know. i am a police officer. i don't ha
estate market and how the fiscal cliff could affect it. we will be right back. >> ♪ [video clip] >> there are six who say that a party platform is something no one bothers to read and does not often amount to much. whether it is different this time than it has ever been before, i believe the republican party has a platform that is a banner of bold, and mistakable colors with no pale pastel shades. >> the 76 campaign is interesting because you see the evolution of reagan, his mind, its velocity, is politics. he talks in this speech about hope and the future and a future without nuclear weapons and america free of nuclear weapons. being aimed at weapons it more progressive. . it's . you are the world is not just a denunciation of big government liberalism. you can see his anti-communism evolving, is cultural views evolving. he has not yet gained or acquired the tax cut philosophy which fit so nicely into his optimistic outlook of empowering individuals to determine their own lives. >> saturday night at 8:00 eastern, the political campaigns of ronald reagan, part of four days of am
that fiscal cliff, will there be a deal? also tonight, an abc news exclusive. barbara walters at the white house. asking michelle obama if she'll run for office next. and a personal question, too. >> how do you keep the fire going? >> hmm. that's a good question. >>> made in america. the great christmas challenge. >> i know, i know your show. >> she knew, and so did thousands of others. tonight, the big reveal. the videos you sent in, the made in america gifts you put under the tree. and the ones that didn't fit. >> merry christmas, david! >> how you're creating joy and jobs this christmas. >>> and caught on tape. the adorable pet dog stolen, about to be sold. you won't believe what happened next and what we witnessed today. >>> good evening on this wednesday night. and we hope you had a merry christmas. diane has a few more nights with her family, and what a night to stay indoors. across much of this country tonight, a massive winter storm and already, the ripple effect being felt coast to coast. the monster storm system stretching from indiana to maine, all the way to north carolina. mor
the fiscal cliff. now all eyes will be on the senate after house republicans said it's up to them to reach the deal. nbc's danielle leigh is on capitol hill. what's the latest? >> it's another day and another standoff. john boehner may not even bring the house back to town until the senate comes up with a possible plan. >> reporter: obama leaves his tropical retreat in hawaii for a wintry washington, tension on capitol hill is on high. >> i don't so how you could hammer out any kind of a grand bargain or large plan involving tax reform and entitlement changes in a matter of days. >> reporter: serious doubt is setting in. even starbucks is getting involved, writing "come together" on its cup. speaker john boehner says he's sitting this round out after failing to get enough house republicans to support his own plan just before christmas. >> i think boehner is being controlled unfortunately by the right wing. >> reporter: that leaves it up to majority leader harry reid and the rest of the senate to find a possible solution. aides say reid's plan would avoid tax increases for people making les
towards a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. we know that about eight hours from now right at three o'clock here in d.c., senator mitch mcconnell and senator harry reid, the principal negotiators from the senate are going to is sit with senators from their parties down and tell them the numbers they've agreed should be in the deal and if those meetings go well, they might be able to vote tomorrow in the senate, tomorrow afternoon. the house of representatives though would then need to support it, too, before it can become a law and we heard last night a little bit of what republicans there are worried about at this stage. >> it's about making sure that we can live within our means and address the real problem and that's spending. i kind of feel like i'm a lifeguard and we've got to save as many people from drowning in higher taxes that we can. >> reporter: one of the big sticking points so far has been the income threshold for tax increases, basically trying to figure out who should be classified as wealthy and who should count as middle class. president obama wanted $250,000 per hou
no deal on the fiscal cliff. why one top democrat thinks we'll careen right off the edge. >>> nobodies show egyptians approve a constitution, the fight is not over yet. why the leading opposition plans to fight it. >>> a winter storm, heading east. it could wreak havoc for lots of travelers today. now we know what you need. >> good morning, everybody. welcome to "early start." chilly in new york city this morning. i'm alina cho. >> i'm dana bash in washington, d.c. it is 30 minutes past the hour. the latest on a developing story from kabul. the capital city in afghanistan, another apparent green on blue killing. an american contractor serving as advisor to the afghan police, shot and killed. this happened this morning, by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform. there have been dozens of attacks this year invol. this is the first by a woman. so far, the victim's name is withheld. >>> this wasn't on our christmas list, but it's starting to look like all of our stockings will be stuffed with a tax hike and spending cuts. crunch time. just eight days until america goes off the fiscal cli
to head back to washington and jump-start the fiscal cliff negotiations with congress. talks fell apart before christmas. the deadline now is just days away and there is no deal in sight to avoid the tax hikes and spending cuts set to go into effect january 1st. our juan williams is a fox news political analyst and he joins us today and very quickly, juan, merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas, kelly. kelly: this is daunting task facing congress to avert the so-called fiscal cliff that will set into motion more than $600 billion in drastic and draconian allic tax hikes and spending cuts. that will cause a lot of pain for all americans and does congress have enough time to act on this? >> they do. you know it will be very close and it may in fact go beyond the deadline per se although people are thinking at the moment it is possible to get something done by the end of this week. the key here, kelly, is the senate. we have been so focused on the house, speaker boehner, plan. about, plan b falling apart. now speaker boehner is pointing towards the senate and the white house is pointin
can avoid the fiscal cliff if the president and the democrat-controlled senate step forward and work with republicans to solve this problem and solve it now. >> reporter: all over the country right now, uncertainty is in the air. >> it's not a matter of am i going to pay my light bill but is it going to deplete my savings. >> even if the impact isn't real, the perceived impact could cause a dropoff in sales. >> reporter: gets a deal is up to the top democrat and top republican. >> we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. >> whatever we come up with will be imperfect. that's where we are. >> reporter: harry reid and mitch mcconnell say they are confident they can find a compromise but they have to sell it to house speaker john boehner and his fellow republicans before monday night's deadline. brian mooar, nbc washington. >> and david gregory will have an interview with president obama on "meet the press." that's tomorrow morning at 10:30 right here on nbc 4. >>> you
obama cutting his vacation short to avoid the fiscal cliff but house speaker john boehner says the people who need to take action are not in the oval office. >>> as the investigation continues into the deaths of four americans in libya we're learning people who were initially blamed are back on the payroll with little or no punishment. >>> unbelievable video. some aquariumgoers getting way too close to a real live shark. as close as you can get without becoming dinner. it is all "happening now." harris: hello, everyone, i'm harris faulkner, in today for jenna lee. jon: nice to have you up here in the big studio instead of down in the newsroom. harris: good to be here. jon: i'm jon scott. there is deadly weather pounding the united states. a powerful winter storm bringing snow and driving rain to the northeast. blizzard conditions in some areas. it is the same system that brought winter storms and tornados to the south and midwest. at least 12 people have died in this system. we're seeing major travel problems today as well. some areas are getting slammed all night long. anna ko
schools. right now they have very little leverage onra this debate over e fiscal cliff because that stuff happens automatically, but the idea of a debt ceiling increasef they told obama more than once if you want a trillion dollars, you will need that eight times in the next decade they will have to cut spending a trillion have to cut spending a trillion eric: i'm a republican, congressman, senator tax pledge to not raise taxes. teo if somebody approaches me and says here is a bill that says if youhi sign this we will cut taxn for 98%, how can you say no to that? my point is this. the administration is winning the war of optics. if they played it this way, do they not win? >> they won the war of optics so far because everything has beene done. done inside closed walls.nd f if c-span, fox are able to videotape the negotiations, the kind of thing we're learning now about obama that i have no interest in cutting spending, just want tax increases. he has been lying about his negotiating position. k if people knew that, there is serious unhappiness on his lack of seriousness with cutting spend
much and have a really happy new year. >> thanks, karen. >>> coming up, it's not just the fiscal cliff. the president has a lot to do and not a lot of time to do it. stay with us. >> the president goes off 18 hours on the golf course, 20 hours in the air. how do you view this politically? >> he's been using this, and i must say with great skill and ruthless skill and success to fracture and basically shatter the republican opposition. we're all having such a great year in the gulf, we've decided to put aside our rivalry. 'cause all our states are great. and now is when the gulf gets even better. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride or just lay in the sun. enjoy the wildlife and natural beauty. and don't forget our amazing seafood. so come to the gulf, you'll have a great time. especially in alabama. you mean mississippi. that's florida. say louisiana or there's no dessert. brought to you by bp and all of us who call the gulf home. c'mon, michael! get in the game! [ male announcer ] don't have the hops for hoops with your buddies? lost your appetite for ro
're at in the system right now. >> it's all about the fiscal cliff, guys. schultz says this is a way to, quote, send our elected officials a respectful but potent message. interesting way to do it. >> the problem with the starbucks, they'll cut a deal. >>> let's talk about sports, shall we? call him a bad quarterback but do not call him a bad teammate. tim tebow firing back after a report that said he asked to sit out some offensive plays on sunday after being snubbed for the jets starting quarterback job. espn says tebow was so upset with the perception that he quit on the team that it dampened his christmas. as for tebow, he will likely be out of new york by next year, headed to presumably the jacksonville jaguars, his home team. but you know what this is? world's smallest violin. you think i feel sorry for him? >> especially with $5 million after being traded from denver. come on, tim, you're terrible. >> oh! >> he's got a lot to say. >> back to the dinner topic right now. as we have told you, president obama lands in washington today, back from hawaii to take part in negotiations over the f is c
it comes to the fiscal cliff. there are no major discussions going on right now about what to do now that talks between the president and the speaker appear to have stalled. in fact, the president and senate majority leader harry reid were both here in honolulu yesterday for the funeral of hawaii senator daniel inouye. we're told they didn't really discuss what to do next. before he left washington the president urged leaders to craft a sort of scaled down plan that simply extends the bush tax rates for the middle class and extends long-term unemployment benefits for another year. but, jeff and rebecca, it's really unclear whether even a package like that could pass both houses of congress. so the president is going to be cutting his vacation short and heading back to washington midweek to work with congressional leaders. at that point, as you know very little time left to get a deal only about five days. >> the pressure will be on. no do-overs for this one. nancy, i want to turn to michael crapo and his dui. what kind of details are emerging on that? >> reporter:
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